Anyone removed deck hand holds?

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June 9, 2021 at 19:09 #26968

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Keymaster

I’m curious if anyone has removed the teak hand holds/grab bars that are on the cabin top (fore and aft) and on the coach roof? Can you offer any insight as to how these are held down?

We are in the process of remounting everything that penetrates the deck, replacing all fasteners as we go. I read an article from an owner of a different good old boat owner who said he discovered his grab bars had very badly corroded stainless fasteners after one grab bar broke off in his hand.

Those hand holds are such critical safety features, I am thinking of removing one to see how it looks – but curious if anyone can offer some thoughts before I destructively remove those lovely teak plugs that cover the screws.

Thanks – Marilyn

June 14, 2021 at 20:27 #26973

Guy H
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I thought I read somewhere in all the paperwork that they are bolted into captive ‘nuts’ that are glassed in. Obviously helps with stopping water ingress but if they break or snap in there it might not be so great!

I need to do the same as the rear end of the stbd hand rail has come away!

June 22, 2021 at 15:14 #26976

James Timms
Participant

No, but I am just about to starting with the small ones aft!  I have bought replacements for the 1 loops and 3 loops from Force 4 chandlers.  Im looking where I can get hold of the longer ones.

June 27, 2021 at 19:55 #26979

Ponape
Participant

Hi,

We had a grab rail come loose on the cockpit roof and after using an impact driver to remove the screw only succeeding in damaging the screw head (underneath the teak plugs) I gave up and drilled two holes either side and drilled and bolted through.

Possibly not the best approach but it’s solid and safe now. We used dome head bolts on the underside to make it as neat as it could be.

all the best,

 

George Dadd (Ponape)

 

 

 

 

July 5, 2021 at 16:11 #26984

James Timms
Participant

OK, I tried a bunch of times to submit here with pictures but it kept failing and losing my commentary and photos!.  Briefly the copper bolts are epoxied to the handles but not into the coach roof.  Whip out the plugs and excess wood around the bolt with a chisel and they screw straight out.  So clean that I could reuse. I used a 6mm bit and 13mm spade on the new for the existing bolts, plus sikaflex on my test one, probably changing to epoxy for the next.  Will stick some photos on Facebook page if it helps!  Whole replacement took less than 20 minutes which is a welcome change for a boat job!

July 5, 2021 at 19:28 #26985

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Keymaster

Thanks for the info, and nice photos on FB group. Looks like one handhold got destroyed in process?

You might consider sealing the handhold down with butyl -we’ve been using this on all our rebedded parts and very happy with result. It remains pliable, so should retain seal even if boat flexes, which is always does when at sea.

There must be someone in the UK who offers similar butyl tape, but do realize that not all things sold as butyl remain as pliable as this Compass Marine variety.

Sorry about the very poor support for photos here. I really should look into that someday – or if someone wants to help?

Cheers – Marilyn, moderator

July 6, 2021 at 07:31 #26988

James Timms
Participant

Hi Marilyn,

As I was replacing the hand holds (it was giving off a nasty creaking sound) then I didnt mind wrecking it.  TBH that was really a test run, I will check out butyl for the others, these handles are deeper than the originals and I am thinking about sourcing some longer bolts too for additional strength.

Cheers!

July 30, 2021 at 19:46 #26996

Guy H
Participant

Hi Marilyn

I’d be happy to help with the website

Guy

August 9, 2021 at 17:07 #27001

Moderator
Keymaster

Thanks Guy! I will contact you via email to discuss more.

Marilyn

September 20, 2021 at 14:08 #27058

James Timms
Participant

OK, Ive been ticking along in the background with lots of boat works.  However I did not do much on this little project.  I have some learning to share.  The 3 and 4 and 5 loop standard handles do not fit the CN38, so I have ordered teak to remake.  I have also removed the fixings which tie the cockpit roof to the foredeck, I am also remaking those, to remove I drilled out the screw heads from inside and they just fell off.  The old butyl underneath was dry.  I have sourced some butyl to fix the new handles.

September 20, 2021 at 21:03 #27059

Guy H
Participant

The 3 and 4 and 5 loop standard handles do not fit the CN38

That’s very useful info – I will make more of an effort to rescue mine then!!

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