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(Moderator: this is the note James tried to post earlier, but had problems because of the photos – my apologies to all!)
Hi,
I did one of the small aft ones as a test at the weekend. Finding was that the bolt is epoxied into the handle, but only tapped into the coach roof. Tried two techniques to get them off, both worked well and can be combined:
- Remove wooded plug with a chisel so that you can get to the bolt head (be careful its copper)
- Remove excess wood around the bolt with chisel or dremmel
- Unscrew the bolt, clean off the excess wood from the bolt and sand down adheasive from the coach roof
- (I used the original bolts on the new handle) 6mm HSS to cut the hole in the new handle, 13mm spade to cut the countersink for the head and a bevelled plug).
- I used sikaflex for the base adhesive for the handle and for the plug however I am in two minds about epoxy with the other handle
Hope this helps
Ive bought WEMA for fuel and water, Ive rigged them up in my workshop to check that it all works, looks good and easy to understand system. Im putting both on switches next to the gauges. FW in galley, fuel obviously in cockpit.
Hi,
I removed the coach roof ones this weekend (both sizes), the machine screws were significantly perished. Sounds like David realised my own fear that when you needed those handles they werent to be trusted. Im going to attempt to make a router template using the old ones, im thinking a flush cutter and a rounding over bit might be enough to make the new ones. If that doesnt work Ill find a local CNC shop to measure and cut my new ones.
Cheers
OK, Ive been ticking along in the background with lots of boat works. However I did not do much on this little project. I have some learning to share. The 3 and 4 and 5 loop standard handles do not fit the CN38, so I have ordered teak to remake. I have also removed the fixings which tie the cockpit roof to the foredeck, I am also remaking those, to remove I drilled out the screw heads from inside and they just fell off. The old butyl underneath was dry. I have sourced some butyl to fix the new handles.
I just bought a WEMA gauge as I am overhauling all of the electronics, still got to get around to measuring for the wright size float sensor!
Hi Marilyn,
As I was replacing the hand holds (it was giving off a nasty creaking sound) then I didnt mind wrecking it. TBH that was really a test run, I will check out butyl for the others, these handles are deeper than the originals and I am thinking about sourcing some longer bolts too for additional strength.
Cheers!
OK, I tried a bunch of times to submit here with pictures but it kept failing and losing my commentary and photos!. Briefly the copper bolts are epoxied to the handles but not into the coach roof. Whip out the plugs and excess wood around the bolt with a chisel and they screw straight out. So clean that I could reuse. I used a 6mm bit and 13mm spade on the new for the existing bolts, plus sikaflex on my test one, probably changing to epoxy for the next. Will stick some photos on Facebook page if it helps! Whole replacement took less than 20 minutes which is a welcome change for a boat job!
Yep, I started the facebook group, its certainly not to rival this resource. Just good for sharing media and adventures with the boats 🙂 Search for Nicholson 38 in facebook and you will find it.
No, but I am just about to starting with the small ones aft! I have bought replacements for the 1 loops and 3 loops from Force 4 chandlers. Im looking where I can get hold of the longer ones.
