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August 5, 2011 at 00:52 #5381ModeratorKeymaster
Rainshadow has the Perkins 4-108 still, and the fuel injection pump has just started leaking at the throttle control where the rod enters the pump. It is dripping about 1 drip per second, and this drip rate may be dependent on the throttle setting.
Does anyone have advice for whether this pump can be rebuilt, or whether we should be looking for a replacement? Could this be some simple seal replacement? We are likely to hire the local diesel mechanic to do the work to ensure the timing is correct once the pump is reinstalled – but I’m wondering if anyone has words of advice for us? We are not experienced diesel mechanics, but always willing to learn.
Thanks – Marilyn
August 5, 2011 at 01:33 #9801Happy DolphinParticipantYes, repair easy and cheap
In at nutshell it needs new O-ring
No need to remove pump from engine
Disconnect throttle and stop cable completely from pump
Remove two retaining bolts (may be star type heads) holding spindle unit/casting lift upwared carefully and remove unit taking care not to tear gasket
The spindle will now pull out from casting revealing worn O-ring
Replace and re assemble
The casting gets worn oval by spindle and in severe cases needs replacing eventually
Note absolute cleanliness is needed wash hands tools parts before you start and as you proceed (sorry in diesel or paraffin or petrol)August 5, 2011 at 01:36 #9811Happy DolphinParticipantoops you may need to remove manifold/heat exchanger for good access
August 5, 2011 at 01:44 #9821Happy DolphinParticipantOops again this is for hydraulic governed pump but if its mechanical governed very similar but you have to fiddle with governor spring to unhook it when top is unscrewed (nothing major)
Most diesel mechanics will not strip a pump thoAugust 6, 2011 at 00:37 #9851VanParticipantHi Roy,
Thanks for this advice – you inspired me to try it. I spent much of today cleaning the engine, draining the coolant, and removing the manifold. Fortunately, the previous owner stocked up on spare gaskets so we are set for replacing those.
Now, I have good access to the pump – except there are two fuel lines that pass over it. Can you tell me about how much I’ll have to pull the spindle unit up? I think there is only about 3/4″ of space. Should I just disconnect and move the fuel lines?
Thanks!
Van
August 6, 2011 at 21:36 #9861Happy DolphinParticipantyes remove them from memnory it has to lift 3/4 inch
August 7, 2011 at 21:30 #9911Happy DolphinParticipantfrom memory again if you remove just outer casting retaining bolt then i think spindle will then pull out spindle has groove cut in it to retain it when bolt is in
August 13, 2011 at 17:55 #10021VanParticipantHi Roy, I owe you a beer (or three).
Like I said before, you inspired me to have a go, and yesterday, I finally finished the repair, and everything works now! Really appreciate your help. I’ll write up some notes on the process and put that on our svrainshadow.com blog. The hardest part (besides overcoming my own stupidity) was finding a source for the O-rings. A diesel injection pump repair place mailed some to me, but the one for the stop control broke as I was installing it (I think it was defective). We had to drive to Pt Townsend (over an hour) to get a replacement – none of the local diesel shops, or auto parts shops had them in the right size. But, it all worked out in the end, so we’re happy.
BTW, you are exactly correct about just removing the outer casting retaining bolt and being able to pull out the throttle spindle and replace the o-ring. But we figured we should replace the stop control spindle o-ring while we were at it.
Van
August 20, 2011 at 01:23 #10031Happy DolphinParticipantthe stop control gets far less use but can get brittle with age
here is another tip
if its hard to start see if its injecting only a small amount of fuel if it is
remove fuel inlet pipe
remove the hexagon unit it was screwed into carefully
remove small nylon filter
remove the barrel under this very gently note position and way up of parts (only 3)
using brasso or Tcut and two matches re lap small piston (this sticks causing poor fuel flow)
as befor wash hands and parts and reassemble a touch of grease will hold bits in place
this is another $1000 job about 1/2 hours workDecember 16, 2011 at 02:50 #10791Happy DolphinParticipanttiming setting all diesels running at lowish revs or tick over out of gear, if smoke is white advance it if smoke is black retard it simple
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